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2012
Like many others, I too have been waiting for quite a while for Canon to release its mirrorless system. There are speculations and indications that they may very well do so this year, but I personally grew a bit restless. Because of this, I decided to put to paper, or rather to CAD and rendering software, my vision of such camera. After about a month of learning, debating, modeling and rendering, the Canon AE-D came to life.
Actually, this camera represents more of a fantasy rather than vision. Personally, I don’t actually see Canon going this route since it will probably be quite expensive. While pros and enthusiasts may welcome it, the bulk of the profit is in the sub 1K vicinity. Nonetheless, there is a market for such a system and that is something that I constantly kept in mind while working on the project. I wanted to conceive and design a product that could find its roots in reality. Both product/marketing wise and technical wise.
The design is inspired by the classic AE and AE-P which are two of my favorite Canon cameras ever. Simple, iconic, timeless. I couldn’t think of a better basis for a modern mirrorless system.
Some of the main features and the reasoning behind them are:
Full Frame – Might as well be the pinnacle of 35mm. Especially if a new lens mount is required. Future proof.
18.1MP sensor from the 1DX – This camera will not rob sales from the 1DX on form factor alone so it makes sense to use an existing sensor instead of a new one. Plus, it will make an excellent pair to someone with an 1DX.
CM-D Lens mount – That was the source of most headaches for me. Naturally, I wanted to design it around the EF mount for reasons that I don’t need to state but it proved to be very problematic. Both the flange depth and actual mount diameter meant that the camera needed to be much thicker and possibly taller to accommodate EF lenses. So this “CM-D” lens mount is roughly FD sized which keeps the dimensions close to the original and enables lenses that are not too huge. EF lens use should be possible with an adapter but please correct me if I made some wrong assumptions about the dimensions here.
50mm f/1.0L “Kit Lens” – Fast primes. What can I say? I love them and they probably the best match to a system as I outlined above. So their existence is no less realistic that all the other items here. While I am far from being an optics expert, I designed this 50mm lens based on a combination of schematics of the Canon 50mm f/1L. FD f/1.2L and Leica f/0.95 so it should be a realistic representation of the dimensions of such a lens. It also features an aperture ring for direct control as well as an Auto mode for shutter priority or auto mode.
Viewfinder – Design wise, I knew from the start that I wanted to incorporate the prism hump of the AE cameras. It is a prominent feature that without it, the context of the design gets somewhat lost. At the same time, it is obviously not a technical requirement in mirrorless cameras so making it detachable while housing the EVF felt like the the optimal combination of form and function. After all, if this is a camera for photographers, a viewfinder, even if electronic, is a must.
Flash + Flash + Flash – I regard flashes as an integral, must have feature of any system and I didn’t want to handicap its use in any form. Not when taking snapshots with the built-in one and not when the viewfinder is either attched or not.
As for the future, I see myself designing a second camera in the line. Something more pocketable with more pancakey lens. Something that will also possibly more in line with what Canon will offer us themselves in the future.














Kai
Seriously cool design!
Emanuele
I would suggest to add a choice of two removable hand grips, one just to improve a bit the grab and the other more pronounced (SLR-like), like Olympus did on the E-P3 and E-M5. My experience with both the Olys and a Nikon V1 suggests that especially with heavier lenses a detachable grip can be really useful in the field. Just a thought.
Keep-up the good work, David, very well done.
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Hi,
This camera looks absolutely wonderful and completely real. I love the lens and the flash pop up is really funny. Great great work – thanks!
Blaise
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Bfos
This is amazing.
I have been stopping myself from buying the Fuji X1-Pro because i am waiting and hoping Canon will have an answer.
If they can make one that looks anything like the trusty old Canon Ae-1 or what you have envisioned, ill buy 10!
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Bengt Nyman
Sorry, but form follows function, not the other way around. Let Canon worry about it. Full Frame, Yes. Mirrorless, Yes. EVF Yes, but on the left. 18 mp NO, at least 30. AA filter optional.
dick ranez
The A series heritage is evident in this mockup – but you might also consider the T70/50 as a starting
point. Either way, a mirrorless offering with an adapter to use the fabulous FD series lenses would
be a great temptation for me.
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James Bullard
Great idea. Now how do we convince Canon to do it?
Richard Barley
I think you may have just designed the perfect camera. Full frame sensor combined with smaller fast lenses. I hope Canon are watching your work because I think you have a great idea here. Richard Barley
Filipe
I love everything about this! I’m not a fan of the EVF, though. A viewfinder would be great, though. Have you thought about the Canon QL rangefinder design? that would settle the nose grease on the screen issue. Beautiful job. I haven’t been this excited about a camera design in a long, long time.
David
I am left handed and left eyed so my perspective is a bit different.
But I agree, the Canonet could also be a very attractive alternative design to a modern mirrorless camera.
Nancy Lehrer
Made me nostalgic for my AE-1. Loved too the attention to detail in the opening shot with the checkered shirt and mid-70′s style guitar-style camera strap.
How about a micro-4/3rds rendition? Yes full frame is lovely, but the smaller 4/3rds form-factor has a lot of advantages with very few disadvantages. Image 1/2 the 5dMKIII sensor – that’s still 11MP. And yes, please make the mount using the Oly/Panasonic micro 4/3 standard.
David
Canon producing a camera with another manufacturer’s mount is highly unlikely. Much more unlikely than this concept itself.
Johnjo
It would make a lot of sense to use u4/3 mount though, coupled with having an already existing range of very goodlenses it would put Nikon who are so far up their own a**** mostly out of the picture.
David
It will not make sense from Canon’s point of view. They make a lot more profit on selling lenses than camera bodies.
Joshua
Fucking beautiful.
Evan
Simply beautiful and stunning, I would so so so love to see this happen! any way to make the buttons on the back a bit sleeker? I love every inch of it, but the back seems out of place, not sure, just a suggestion! keep it up!
David
This is certainly something that I thought about quite a bit. In the end, the decision to do something simple is that I didn’t want to add something that would substantially look out of place. But I agree, in retrospect, the back could use some freshening up.
moos
Love it. Would buy it.
Photography. Simple.
(the film-roll-periscope flash is funny-looking, maybe too retro. everything else is spot on. forget the ‘form-follows-function’ crowd — they would’ve gawked at the 1st iPhone — ‘What! Just one button! No, no, it can’t be!’)
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Adam Nelson
Man I was just about to buy a Leica M8.. If this comes to fruition I will be all over this. This camera is my ultimate street camera like DONOVAN said. I am a pro and my DSLR is the last thing when I feel like taking images for fun. This camera would be my solve! Love the design and the hard work. I am crossing my fingers hoping this will be in my hands soon. I would be first inline for presale!
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Norm
Great concept. Why not the LEICA lens mount?
David
My guess is that Canon would want to milk from us lens money.
No sense in us giving our hard earned cash to Leica.
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Robert
The AE-D is a great design. My dream camera would be a full frame F1-D based on the New F1 and have a converter to take FD lenses with infinity focusing for all focal lengths. The converter would support the automatic aperature control of the FD lenses and have a stop down lever for depth of field preview.
James
Wow. That’s my dream camera too, but seriously? That would cost like 10,000 dollars. Not worth it.
Robert
No, it would be worth it since Canon charges $10,000 for some of their EF lenses when there are millions of FD lenses out there with excellent optics for a lot less money. This is precisely why Canon won’t do it because it would undermine their EF lens sales. It would have to be a third party manufacturer with technical specs on the FD lens mount and access to a full frame sensor.
Robert
My F1-D concept to Dave (hint, hint) would include a New F1 style body with removable EVF pentaprism using a similar slide-in pentaprism mount as the F1. It would have a rear view screen and controls like AE-D and top controls in updated retro style like the F1. There would be lens mount modules designed specifically for different lenses (FD, EF or CM-D). There would be a universal electronic interface between the camera and the lens mount module. The FD module would need electro-magnets for the automatic aperture index lever, a sensor for the maximum aperture pin and a stop down lever.
David
Excellent ideas, Robert. For us photographers, at least. For Canon, not so much I’d guess. Gaining the ability to use some of the fine glass of yesteryear is probably one of their worst nightmares.
Also, an F1 styled body could be a very interesting extension to the line of mirrorless cameras. I wonder what a lineup of mirrorless cameras looking like the F1, AE and perhaps something like the Canon P. What do you think? How could they be differentiated? Perhaps on a more substantial level than simply different MP ratings.
Robert
Dave, I think a line of retro Canon digital cameras could be differentiated by trades in simplicity and functionality. Your entry level AE-D/CM-D would cover Canon competiveness with small mirrorless models like the Nikon 1 and Olympus OM-D Series. An F1-D would appeal to advanced amateurs and professionals who really liked the heft and feel of the F1, who have Canon DSLR’s and were left hanging with a bunch of FD lenses when Canon switched to EF in the mid-80’s. Mirrorless technology makes retro cameras possible and support of legacy lenses like FD because of the short distance to lens mount and sensor without the mirror.
David
Indeed. And I can say with almost certainty that what is now happening in the video world will happen in stills photography in the future. In video, with the appearance of relatively cheap, very high quality interchangeable systems, a lot of previously very cheap old lenses have risen many times in price. With almost limitless adaptability, old lenses from the the most obscure corners of the world are being used with great results in video.
Robert
Yes, and I know from experience that FD lenses have increased in price two-fold for certain models since several developers came out with thin FD to EF converters. The FD/EF converters are not the solution as the really good functionality of the FD lenses is lost. Honestly, I can live without autofocus and image stabilization provided with Canon EF lenses. The manual focus (which is often needed for precise work) on EF lenses is really a design after-thought. It doesn’t compare in any way to the smooth and precise manual focus of an FD lens.
David
Yup and not to mention that the trend appears to be about not providing interchangeable focusing screens anymore which are a must for any precise manual work.
Robert
This is true. Maybe you could have different interchangeable EVF pentaprisms in your concept. I can imagine an electronic “split-image” pentaprism for the F1-D or an EVF with cross-hatch lines for macro or architectural photography or a plain high resolution electronic matte screen for telephoto.
Ricardo
Love the design! I would buy one right now!
kib
prefer the one with built-in EVF. Like the pop up flash and the classic adjustment for iso and shutter speed, good for preset the iso and shutter speed before on the camera for street photography
Frank
Aperture back on the lens! Please do it Canon.
Kasparoff
It’s the most beautiful camera of what i’ve seen : )
Sad that nobody can do this for real. Can’t Canon?..
Ron
As the internet cliche goes… “Shut-up and take my money!!!”
This is an amazing concept… I wish they build it like this. I’m a Nikon user and would happily sell out to buy this! Hope Canon sees this!!!
William
I like the design, especially the optional EVF, im a bit torn on how the flash looks when in the up position, I think it is well hidden so the camera keeps the classic design, but at the same time is just looks massive when up lol, but depending on price of body and lenses, I would give serious thought to buying this if it were ever made real.
William
This, so far, is the first mirrorless system that has actually appealed to me, and it isnt even an official concept design…YET haha. I’m still a huge fan of mirrored SLR cameras, so this is saying a lot haha.
Danilo
I like the idea of taking the practicality of the old cameras, like: knobs to select ASA, shutter speed, etc. Also the initiative of recovering the legacy of Canon cameras, like the AE-1., in the form of new designs. However I would prefer a camera form –camera design– more ergonomic. I love the idea of a rangefinder rather than a SLR. Also, viewfinders please, it is absolutely ridiculous taking pictures with LCD screens.
David
I suppose we will know soon enough what Canon actually has in mind. My bet it will be something very similar in both function and looks to the G1X.
vigneshwar Raj
Very nice design,like it very much,waiting for the release.
Richard
Love this…. If Canon has any brains they’d bring you on to help design this. I’d buy one in a second.
robin alexander
some how we all have been over powered by its looks, so good
hats off !!!!!!!!!!
Timmie
This is, what we want and what did we get? EOS M…
Wildbegonia
My first camera was a Canon AE1, greatest camera, technologically and ergonomically. So when at first saw this one, i had to rub my eyes because it felt like I was dreaming. Those who owned one can recognize the feeling one felt having this camera in your hands as you bring it close to your eye and prepare your photo, a feeling that scapes words. And here is just like a phoenix coming out of the ashes: simply gorgeous. Canon AE 1 had a very advance focus system which thanks to it, I discovered that I suffer from Keratoconus, I had to quit photography until the recent coming of digital technology. Keep my address and contact me when pre-orders are accepted. Masterful and well crafted design.
Micael
Good Job!
Clever design with the EVF and the Flash. For us that don’t like EVF’s, one could have an “optical tunnel” with information overlays ans an optional eq.
It looks a bit like my old Minolta XD7…which i loved
Thanks!
Ricardo Villagran
Beautiful work in every sense, I wouldn´t need any other camera at all! Congrats and thanks for sharing!